Do you have a question or comment that’s more general in nature–something that extends beyond a specific blog post and synthesizes, extrapolates, and/or puts two and two together? Here’s a good place to write down these sorts of comments and questions.
Feel free to chime in!
As long as we’re discussing Glenn Dennison, Ron’s insurance agent, I thought it would be fun to post a few facts I’d dug up about him a while ago:
Fun Facts about Glenn Dennison:
–He was born Aug. 7, 1912, which means that he would have been 40 years old on April 17, 1953, when Ron stopped by to pay his insurance premium.
–Although he was born in Carroll County, Indiana, the family moved to Hanover Township in Butler County, where his father was a farmer, at least by the 1920 Census.
–He graduated from McGuffey High School in 1930.
–Glenn also attended Miami University, and graduated in 1934.
–He married Frances Mae Angst, of Seven Mile, OH, in October 1940.
–In addition to working from his home in Oxford, Glenn also had an insurance office in Hamilton. In 1953, it was located at 212 Main Street. The following year, he moved his Hamilton office to 326 Main Street.
–Glenn died April 6, 1998. Frances died 10 years later.
–Glenn and Frances are buried in Oxford Cemetery, the same cemetery where lots of other people having to do with the Tammen mystery are buried.
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Additional thoughts: Because Glenn had such close ties to Oxford, it seems possible that he did his banking at Oxford National Bank. And if he *did* bank there, it would be even weirder that the check Ron had written to Glenn wasn’t reported to Carl Knox by bank officials. He would have likely deposited it there the Monday after Ron disappeared, so it would have been one of the first checks they’d see after they began scrutinizing Ron’s finances. BUT I could be wrong, and Glenn could have done his banking in Hamilton. Even so, it’s weird. Either bank officials didn’t inform Carl about Ron’s check to Glenn when they should have known about it or Carl didn’t record anything about it in his notes.
Hey there! I received another email from someone–RP–in which she posed a list of observations and questions. I’ve separated them out, question by question and/or point by point, along with my responses. Also, I apologize that my WordPress software isn’t letting users hit the “Reply” arrow beneath a comment. If you’d like to reply or comment, feel free to use the box.
RP: First Dorothy’s check. My understanding is she gave Ron a check. Is it known if it was a personal or business check?
JW: We can’t say for sure. It appears as if it was likely a personal check, since her name was all that Carl Knox had written down, but we don’t know that it wasn’t a business check that she’d signed at the bottom.
RP: Does Dorothy’s physical appearance somewhat match the mysterious female that was seen with him?
JW: Not in my view. She definitely fits the description of an “older woman” but she looked more maternal, in my view, than a woman who occasionally picked Ron up and drove him places. Note that I’ve only seen her photo from 1965, 12 years after Ron disappeared, and people back then seemed to look a lot older than people of the same age today. I’ve attempted to run her photo by some people who may have seen “the woman from Hamilton,” but, to date, no one has recognized her. But I’ll keep trying.
RP: If not, that could indicate another individual could also be involved.
JW: That’s certainly a possibility.
RP: I say involved simply because there’s no public reporting of her coming forward.
JW: This has always bothered me–whether we’re talking about Dorothy Craig or another woman. If their association with Ron could be explained away easily, then you’d think they would have come forward.
RP: In theory he might not have disappeared, but rather was following some instructions.
JW: True.
RP: Dorothy’s check could have been going away money.
JW: Also true.
RP: I wonder how long it took a check to clear back then.
JW: From what I can tell, it took a while, especially if the check was written to a business that was out of town (i.e., the Cleveland Trust Co.). Judging by Carl Knox’s notes, Carl hadn’t learned about the check Ron had written on Friday, April 17, for his car insurance, by the time the Cleveland Trust check (written April 15) as well as his payment to the Delts (written April 13) had cleared. That’s odd, since his insurance guy (Glenn Dennison) operated out of Oxford and Hamilton. I don’t know where Glenn banked, but you’d think Ron’s check would have cleared sooner than it did, and/or that bank officials would have told Carl Knox about it sooner.
RP: Hamilton is an odd location for blood test I’m wondering if perhaps he traveled there for some other purpose and simply decided to have the test there.
JW: I’ve wondered about that too. The YMCA is on the same street in Hamilton as Doc Boone’s office. I’ve wondered if perhaps Ron or someone he associated with might have had a membership there. Perhaps Ron decided to go to Doc Boone since Boone’s office was literally across the street. But I don’t know.
RP: Does Dorothy have connections to Hamilton? That could be one avenue,or perhaps the university or paper company could have ties there.
JW: Yes, Dorothy lived in Hamilton nearly her entire life, and the headquarters of Champion Paper was located there. So, indeed, the city of Hamilton could figure into this mystery.
RP: This case is odd because as you clear up one item you discover something else.
JW: You’re so right. Sometimes I fear that people are losing interest since there appears to be no end to this mystery and there’s so much waiting involved. Nevertheless, I’ll continue persisting.
It occurred to me that if Ron knew he was going to disappear, paying up on his car insurance meant he’d been planning on taking his vehicle with him, or go about his daily life as if nothing was going on. Or he thought he’d be back, and something prevented that from happening.
Sadly, we can only wildly speculate on most of this, until some government agency or other sees fit to actually start providing information.
Very interesting…as if maybe they gave him *some* info about their plans for him, just not ALL the info. Maybe he wouldn’t have signed on with them otherwise.
On a completely different topic, I have some good news: at 12:39 AM, the National Archives sent me Reuben Robertson Jr.’s military records, which they’d had a difficult time locating. I only skimmed them bc it was 12:39 AM, but they do contain some interesting info—enough for a mini post in the not-too-distant future, I think.
Perhaps THEY even intended for Ron to return, and there was an accident or something. That weirdo Sydney Gottlieb was secretly dosing people with LSD all the time, often to the detriment of the subject. Or something even more banal happened, like his appendix suddenly burst. Some event they felt would create too many questions/put a spotlight on them if they let him go back.
Very good point. We can’t rule out something untoward happening, even though, according to our evidence, Ron must have lived thru it, and he was still alive in 2002.
The only time I ever did something like that, I needed a TB blood test in order to do “volunteer” coursework at a nursing home in college. That was before the hospitals in CLE bought out all the private practices, so my PCP knew me pretty well and was willing to just do the test without any other poking, prodding, or questioning, since she knew I’d be back eventually.
If Ron WAS going for another reason, he probably didn’t want other people in Oxford seeing him entering a doctor’s office and asking questions. You can still be ostracized today if people find out you might have an STD, I can’t even image how it was back then. Even tuberculosis would still have people scared in ’53 – it had only been a few years since science figured out how to mass produce penicillin and the last sanitariums were shutting the doors.
I suppose there is one other idea, which, if Ron was actually being recruited as a covert operative, he was being tested somehow. Like, “how would you acquire chloroform on the spur of the moment?” or “find Joe Schmoe’s medical file, get his January appointment notes, and bring them back without anyone noticing.”
Very interesting thoughts…🤔🤔🤔 He *did* sound purposely mysterious in his response to Doc Boone, didn’t he? Wouldn’t it be interesting if he didn’t drive there by himself? As if someone were waiting for him outside? So wild to think about.
No worries about the replies, I just worry when it could be a user error on my end. 😝
I don’t know how blood donations worked in the 50s, but the reason I know my blood type is that the Red Cross printed it on my donor card after my first donation. (And now I can find it in their handy app if I need to.) They’ll even tell you if you have certain blood diseases like hepatitis or HIV, although they get pretty mad if people try donating just for free testing. In any case, it’s hard to imagine in 1953 just accepting a doctor’s note, a person’s blood, and that was good enough. Though I guess at the same time I can see them doing exactly that; people implicitly trusted doctors then.
Yeah, I agree. We know that Ron donated blood on occasion, since I spoke with someone who remembers hitchhiking in the snow to Dayton with Ron for that purpose. I’m positive that the blood collection centers typed people’s blood before accepting it if the person didn’t have that card you describe. Maybe they’d accept Ron’s lab results without typing his blood again—I don’t know. But it’s still weird that he’d go to all that trouble to have his blood typed in Hamilton if all he wanted to do was give blood since the donation center would have done it for free. If the donation center was only paying for a specific blood type, his behavior would make a little more sense, although driving to Hamilton and pulling a pop-in at Doc Boone’s office was still pretty weird.
Hi Julie, I’m the one who should be sorry about WordPress not allowing replies below individual comments. I probably have a couple plug-ins installed that don’t like each other very well, and I’m not savvy enough to figure out which ones might be causing issues. Unless the issue resolves itself miraculously, I guess we’ll all have to submit all comments and replies in the box under the “Leave a Reply” heading. Again, sorry.
As for your other comments…all good points. No arguments here. I especially like your point about the possibility of Ron asking Doc Boone for another test besides blood type, such as an STD, and Doc Boone discretely not disclosing it to a reporter. Interesting thought. I will say this: you know there’s got to be more to that doctor’s visit. Who walks into a doctor’s office off the street and tells a doctor that he wants his blood type tested and the doc just follows orders? Doctors take all kinds of weights and measurements (aka “vitals”) as soon as we step inside their office. They ask tons of questions. When Doc Boone first notified the university about Ron’s visit, it was immediately after he’d disappeared, 5 months after the visit. Doc Boone would have been able to recall a lot more about Ron’s visit then–when the university wasn’t interested in hearing about it–in comparison to what he would be able to recall 20 years after the fact.
Sorry, apparently WordPress isn’t letting me reply to comments anymore? But anyway, I read a very short ebook last night, which sadly turned out to be this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States copied through chemical experimentation, then briefly mentioned psychological experiments also happened.
BUT it was a good reminder of all the other, terrible projects going on in the 50s besides MKULTRA…like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, people being dosed with radiation, soldiers subjected to mustard gas and other chemical weapons, bioweapons testing in San Fransisco, etc. And it makes me wonder, since Ron’s case seems to be involving several government and/or military agencies, if there weren’t possibly something else I listed happening as well as hypnosis. Specifically, untreated syphilis is known to affect mental stability, so I could see these guys thinking it was a great idea to combine that with hypnosis, LSD, whatever.
Perhaps Ron asked Doc Boone to be tested for STDs, as well, if that were the case? He could even have been told to go have the blood test done by Switzer or whomever, if that’s what was happening, and told to ask for his blood to be typed as a cover. Also, an ETHICAL doctor (as Boone struck me to be), or today one restrained by HIPAA, would likely not mention that test, at least not to reporters.
Also, just want to point out that while national security was the reason the CIA et. al. claimed secrecy for this, I think the real reason, whether they could admit it to themselves or not, was the morally dubious nature of the stuff they were doing, when not outright crimes against humanity. A common refrain was “anyone would have done the same thing if they had the information we have,” which is BS. They wanted permission to answer questions no one else wanted to know or had already been answered, they just didn’t like those answers.
I received the following email from KP over the weekend, and I thought they raised some great points. Here’s the email:
KP: Hello, I spent a bit of time today reviewing the blog and thinking things through. The first thing that hits me clearly is Ron couldn’t have been the only test subject if there was some secret project going on. They’re had to be at least a few more. I’m wondering also the bizarre blood test that Ron wanted if perhaps he was having psychological issues as the result of whatever research was taking place? Dorothy is interesting and it explains a lot. I’m wondering if this research was being done without the university’s full knowledge? With basically Dorothy being the one that paid the bills and kept track of money . This would prevent any money trails coming from university funds. The check from Dorothy is odd. Why a check? Unfortunately we don’t have a copy of the check, but I wonder did the guy that wrote down Dorothy paying Ron by check go by her signature on the check? Was it a personal check? Perhaps a cover company or cover division of the company Dorothy worked at? Just odd why Dorothy would pay Ron by check,but then again we don’t know if she’s paid him before via check? It could have been a regular payment for some research study Ron was taking party in and it’s just a coincidence he disappeared after the last check.
Here’s my response:
JW: All great questions/observations. My thoughts RE:
Other test subjects: I agree with you that there must have been others — OR, if Ron was the only subject, then they (i.e., Champion Paper and Fibre) may have been paying him over a long period of time. Otherwise, why open a checking account in Oxford for one check?
Blood test: Interesting. So you’re wondering whether he had his blood type tested because he may have been experiencing psychological issues from whatever research was being done on him? Perhaps. I think the blood type issue can be broken down into two separate questions: Why did he have it done? And why did he have it done in Hamilton? My thinking is that he had it done in Hamilton because he wanted to maintain some degree of secrecy. That doesn’t shed much light on question 1, but I think it does indicate that he was involved in something that he didn’t want people to find out about. For this reason, his response to Doc Boone that he “might need to give blood someday” seems less likely to be the actual reason for the test.
If research was being done w/o university’s knowledge: Probably only a few people knew about it, likely for reasons pertaining to the so-called “national security” issue. However, in order for Reuben Robertson, Jr., to become involved as a (potential) funding source, I think that would require someone high up to have some level of knowledge. Once Ron disappeared, I think a lot more people were made aware.
Dorothy’s check: I agree with your thinking. It’s weird that she would have written a check at all, but, if Reuben Jr. used her as a go-between, he may have thought there was sufficient cover for them to keep track of the amount of money being paid to Ron without arousing suspicion. He was a businessman, after all, and businesspeople like to keep track of where their money is going. As for whether Dorothy’s name and signature were on the check, I’m presuming that to be the case, although Carl’s notes are vague. I can almost picture him on the phone, putting down his pencil as the bank official (likely A.K. Morris or Don Shera) told him about the check–just trying to process what I presume to be a major clue regarding Ron’s activities before he disappeared. I’d LOVE to know how much it was for. Tens? Hundreds? Then again, I’m sure we don’t have all of [Carl Knox’s] notes.
Just read the Tammen story in The Miami Student. Nothing earth shattering, but I hope it sends some people this direction.
A good friend was buried yesterday. She retired from Champion Paper in the early 90’s. I was going to ask her about Dorothy Craig. I am sure she’d have at least known her.
Thanks, Stevie J. First, I’m so sorry about your friend. Please accept my condolences for your loss.
I am happy that the Miami Student is helping to keep the story alive. I think Hannah Sander did a very nice job of summing up the case, especially since it’s so complicated.
As for Dorothy Craig, I think someone may be out there who may have known her or perhaps Reuben Robertson, Jr. If so, I would love to hear from them.
Thanks again.
How about a GoFundMe for your legal fees?
I think I need to continue figuring out what happened before I try the lawyer route again. I don’t feel ready to jump back in just yet, but it’s a possibility.
In case you don’t have enough to do, the suggested Wiki edit never happened.
Oh, OK. Thanks for the heads up. I can look into it, but no promises — I’ve never tried it before. But stay tuned for another post…coming soon, probably later this evening. Just fact-checking now.
I have been re-reading through the threads. I’m sure I’ve missed a lot but I had a thought jump out at me and had to ask about it. I know we’ve discussed the whole bood typing thing Ron did. He was also seen leaving with a woman in a car.
Given the rigid way his Dad was and given that he was embarrassed of his mother, maybe Ron had gotten a girl pregnant. That could be where his money was going. He knew his parents would not approve, would not be accepting and thus went off with the mother and his baby.
There could be other factors also. Maybe the girl was “loose”, maybe she was way older than him, maybe she was a different race, a divorcee, etc. It certainly would explain why he worked so much but yet had little money.
Then again, the girl in the car could have been a CIA operative.
Thanks for these thoughts. The question about whether Ron had gotten a girl pregnant is probably the first theory I’d pursued when I started my research. And as I looked into it, reaching out to family members of one of the girls he’d dated during his freshman year, etc., it just seemed very unlikely. Truth is, Ron didn’t date girls that much…so little, in fact, that he felt the need to ask his brother John’s new wife’s younger sister–who attended a different school–to a spring dance 9 months away at a time when Ron had cut off ties with John and his wife. That tells me that Ron was stressing out about that dance and he didn’t envision having any dating prospects by the time it rolled around. He wasn’t interested in her romantically because they didn’t date that entire year. (I discuss the pregnancy issue, including the part about the blood test, in this blog post: https://ronaldtammen.com/2018/11/22/was-ronald-tammen-gay/.)
But let’s delve into that question a little more because it still pops up from time to time. Let’s imagine that Ron did get someone pregnant. If he’d run away–either with or without her–he would have had to change his identity as well, including his name and Social Security number. Ron’s SSN was 276-28-2084 at the time of his disappearance. To change it would be so extreme…and I imagine it’s also incredibly difficult to do. Here are the conditions under which a typical person can have their SSN# changed by the Social Security Administration: https://faq.ssa.gov/en-us/Topic/article/KA-02220. Honestly, I can’t think of the reason he would have given them, but getting a girl pregnant and not wanting his parents (or the girl, or the girl’s angry father) to find him wouldn’t have resonated with them, I’m sure.
Also, if that were the reason he ran away, you’d think he would have taken his car and wallet and emptied his bank account. If he needed to support a girl and a baby, how did he plan to earn a paycheck? He couldn’t do any more music gigs with his musician’s union card in his wallet and his string bass in the back seat of the car.
And finally, there are his fingerprints that were on file with the FBI. They’re just so…mysterious. The FBI expunged them in 2002, 30 years before their retention period had expired due to a Privacy Act request or a court order, most likely the former. This tells me that Ron was still alive and had requested that they be expunged. In 2008, the Butler County Sheriff’s Office reached out to the FBI seeking his fingerprints, whereby their response was “A SEARCH OF OUR CRIMINAL AND CIVIL FILES HAS FAILED TO REVEAL ANY FINGERPRINTS FOR YOUR SUBJECT. A COMPLETE SEARCH OF OUR ARCHIVE MICROFILM FILES HAS FAILED TO REVEAL ANY FINGERPRINTS FOR THIS MISSING SUBJECT AS WELL.” That’s all they said—to a fellow law enforcement officer, which the FBI is supposed to *help*. What the FBI rep neglected to tell Butler County’s detective was that the fingerprints had been expunged in 2002 due to the Privacy Act or a court order, which was information that the person would have seen simply by looking up Ron’s name and birthdate. (I discuss more on that topic in this blog post: https://ronaldtammen.com/2021/07/09/document-comparison/.) My point here is that the FBI is good at what they do. They have ways of finding things out about people. They can contact other agencies and obtain information lickety-split. If Ron had run away–either with or without a girl–and had changed his name and SSN, they would have known it. That information would have been included *somewhere* in Ron’s file. It’s just…not. When someone from the FBI is withholding information from a fellow law enforcement officer, there’s got to be more to the story.
That, and a few additional reasons, is why I choose your last option. 🙂
Thought I sent this a few days ago, guess I didn’t. If you have a friend who’s a Wiki Editor, maybe they could add Ron to the list of “alleged subjects” of MKUltra. Maybe something like, “The working theory of the author of the website RonaldTammen.com is that his disappearance was related to the MKUltra activity on college campuses in the 1950’s.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra
Great idea–that would certainly give our site some visibility! Your suggested sentence is perfect.
Any Wiki editors out there? I don’t have an account, but I could sign up. Or if some savvy soul would like to give it a try, that would be cool too.
Just curious, does anyone else take a look at any missing college kids cases (even recent ones) and wonder if the CIA were somehow involved? Most likely after Ron Tammen they realized people actually try to investigate, not to mention remember for a really LONG time, when certain people disappear, and then you look at some of the similarities in the Maura Murray disappearance and Brendan Santo goes missing at the same time you start reading this blog, and your brain wants to jump to wild conclusions.
I guess my response is that I don’t immediately think of the CIA when a college student–or anyone–goes missing. There are way too many possible explanations out there.
Also, the CIA was still pretty young in 1953 — just 7 years old — and they may have learned a lesson or two with Ron. Like…maybe driving a kid off campus forever wasn’t the surefire recruiting method they thought it would be. Although, I think that’s what happened with Richard Cox too, so maybe they hadn’t learned their lesson as quickly as one would hope.
It’s not something I entertain seriously so much as an explanation that was never on my radar in the first place until January.
Some former NYPD detectives believe there’s a serial killer (dubbed the Smiley Face Killer) who abducts college men off campuses mostly in the Midwest, tortures them for weeks or months, then dumps their bodies in rivers, which if true lines up with Brandon’s disappearance. Maura seems like she planned her own disappearance, although whether it was supposed to be just a weekend or permanent is debatable and either met a tragic ending or really doesn’t want to be found.
I have been enjoying myself reading some of the Richard Cox material. I noticed repeated references to a ” missing person stop” in the Identification Division. Is that typical of all missing person cases? Only active military personnel? Something different? The fact they mention that it exists means that it should also exist in Ron’s file, or there be a valid reason it doesn’t/they claim it doesn’t. Is a missing person stop different than a missing person notice?
Oh, that’s interesting…can you point me to a sample page or take a screen shot?
CD#3, Section 14. Page 16, “notice”. Pages 19 and 22, “stop”. There might have been a couple more along the way, but those I know for sure at the moment.
That’s so interesting. I have no idea if a missing person notice is the same thing as a missing person stop. I’ll do some checking. Thanks for pointing it out! It’s been a while since I went through those docs and it had totally gotten by me.
The best article that I’ve found on the topic of stop notices is in the February 1956 issue of the FBI’s Law Enforcement Bulletin, which you can read here.
From what I can tell, the stop notice basically flagged a fugitive’s fingerprints so that law enforcement would be notified ASAP the next time the fugitive was printed/arrested. According to the 2nd graf: “In the interest of cooperative law enforcement, this FBI repository of fingerprints serves as a ‘locator system’ in the location of wanted criminals. If a local police agency requests a ‘stop notice’ on a wanted fugitive and this individual has a fingerprint record in the FBI files, this record will be flagged. This means that any subsequent set of fingerprints of this wanted person will be matched with the ‘flagged’ record and the requesting agency will be immediately notified.”
So I think the operative words are “wanted” and “fugitive.” When Richard Cox disappeared, he was considered a fugitive from the military, which was a bigger deal than when Ron disappeared. When Ron’s draft status changed, it’s possible that the local draft board put a stop notice on him. The documents that we have don’t indicate that, but it’s possible they were destroyed, particularly after the U.S. Attorney in Cleveland had closed his Selective Service violation case in 1955.
After the FBI digitized fingerprints and coordinated fingerprint data with the National Crime Information Center, they likely ended the stop notices per se. Today, if a law enforcement officer runs someone’s prints, they know instantly if the person is a fugitive, and whoever needs notifying will be notified.
Thanks again for the heads up on that. I learned something today! Btw, if anyone wants to read the entire Feb 1956 issue, here’s the link.
Just a small thing, but in Carl Knox’ notes, it says Ron had a Bulova wristwatch. While that’s not a Rolex, it’s not a cheap watch either. Seems a touch out of character. I don’t know, maybe it was a high school graduation present, but in reading the notes just now, that jumped out at me.
Oh, interesting! That’s not a small thing at all–I didn’t know that about Bulova! I’ll see if perhaps Robert might know where he’d gotten it. Thank you!
I spoke with Robert about this. He was only 7 when Ron disappeared, so he doesn’t remember Ron’s watch. However, he did seem to recall their father wearing a Bulova watch. So he thinks it’s feasible that Mr. Tammen could have bought one for Ron for graduation or something.
Yeah, I somehow forgot to mention her reference to Ron! That line sure jumped out at me, although it escaped my memory logs. I think you’d have heard from her by now if she was still alive.
I was also floored by one one of the strong suspects in the case, I forget the name, but he checked ALL the boxes. I put myself in a jury box and uhhh, sort of think I may have found him guilty. Then DNA proved he wasn’t involved. Just a little reminder to not be too quick to assume an answer.
I came here to ask if you could post somewhere a listing of your current FOIA and other information requests. It’s hard to keep the players straight without a scorecard.
No worries! I’m actually glad you didn’t mention that part because I about died when I read it. It was a great book. Thanks so much for the recommendation. I related to her sooooo much. She could really write, and so can Patton!
As for your idea for a FOIA scorecard—I’ve honestly been mulling over that same idea, and thinking about how I might do it. I’ll definitely add it to my to-do list. 👍 Thanks!
Currently, I’m putting finishing touches on the next blog post, which has to do with the fire at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. (It’s tangentially related to my Tammen research because of all the military records that were lost.) As far as I know, this will be the first time that this story is being told publicly. I’m pretty sure it’ll be ready to go by tomorrow–stay tuned.
Thanks again for your suggestion about a public request scorecard. It’s now posted at the bottom of the Backgrounder sidebar: https://ronaldtammen.com/good-man-score-card/. Hope this helps!
I strongly recommend you read I’ll Be Gone in the Dark, by Michelle McNamara. It’s her account of a private investigation of the Golden State Killer. I just finished it in two days. If you’ve heard of it, you know she died before the book was finished. I surely hope for better things for you!
Anyway, the process was oddly analogous to your efforts. This line, among many, seems apt to AGMIHTF: “We live in a swipe-right, blip-scan culture of clickbait, 140-character arguments, and thirty-second viral videos. It’s easy to get someone’s attention, but it’s almost impossible to keep it.”
That’s reeeeallly good. It hits so close to home, it literally brought tears to my eyes. I haven’t read her book, but it’s been on my list for a long time. Thanks for the suggestion–it sounds like something for this weekend.
Just a few thoughts: even though I feel invisible a lot of the time, as if I’m the only one who seems to care about this or that document or whether or not someone responds to an email, I can’t let it drag me down. I know everyone has their own life to live. I just have to keep going because I honestly think this might be why I’m here. Weird, I know. Also, it’s almost as if some entities–namely, the FBI, CIA, and yes, Miami University–would love for me to lose interest and move on. I think they know by now that’s not going to happen.
I think we seemed to have more attention and commenters in the beginning because, before I started the blog, it had been so long since anything had been reported on Tammen. Also, I’d been sitting on some pretty big stuff, which I revealed every few weeks over two years. Now, the discoveries are more incremental and, I’ll admit it, a little more in the weeds. I get it. It’s fine. This site will be here for people to check into on occasion, and hopefully, to draw in new followers as well. It’s an important story and hopefully, eventually, it’ll get out there. By the way, a very big thank you to you and several others who have been just as committed to this story as I am. Your comments and questions have been invaluable. I truly mean that.
OMG! I was reading “I’ll Be Gone in the Dark” today, and I just got to page 54 where she’s talking about how much of a true crime fan she is. So much so, that when she meets someone and finds out where they’re from, she immediately thinks of “the nearest unsolved crime.” And her VERY FIRST EXAMPLE is: “Tell me you went to Miami University of Ohio, and every time I see you I’ll think of Ron Tammen, the wrestler and bassist in the school jazz band who walked out of his dorm room on April 19, 1953–his radio playing, the light on, his psychology book open–and vanished, never to be seen again.” 🤯 Did that surprise you as much as it surprised me? Thank you again for the suggestion!
I also really like A Murder in Music City by Michael Bishop- there’s a lot of cover-ups and scandal, albeit mostly at the municipal level, as well as tracking down witnesses, friends, etc after decades and many pertinent players dying of age as he investigates.
Oh, wow–that sounds great. I need a good book right now. Thank you!
Hey, btw, Julie, was it you who’d brought up the Heaven’s Gate cult recently with me? 20/20 and Diane Sawyer did a really excellent in-depth piece on them on Friday–now playing on Hulu. They did some serious investigative research–really great.
I just finished reading it, and it’s really good! (I have to confess, I liked it a lot better than “I’ll Be Gone in the Dark” mostly because I think the writers who picked up after Michelle McNamara weren’t that engaging.) I learned about it on one of my many podcasts – Southern Fried True Crime.
And thanks for the 20/20 recommendation – I had to stop to remember even WHY I mentioned Heaven’s Gate in the first place, but yes, that was me. And apparently in reference to their website that is currently still running being less of a scam than that weird insurance site.
Thanks! I’ll definitely read it.
Last line of the Carl Knox notes:
“Did he owe Univ any money?”
Pathetic. For a while, I thought that a Miami rep visiting the Tammens allegedly for payment was a big clue. I thought that was surely a cover story for something more important/sinister/something. Over time, I think it was simply an ill-advised but legitimate visit to collect money. Unbelievable.
Yep: collect the money, ignore possible leads, alter the timeline, don’t mention which book was left open, don’t repeat certain words to reporters, but, by all means, keep the mystery going by telling ghost stories at Halloween. Interesting crisis response strategy.
While the original players in the Tammen saga are all late 80’s at the youngest, whoever interviewed AD was surely much younger. While time is running out on much of the case in terms of first hand witnesses, this particular point surely doesn’t face such a pressing deadline, no pun intended. Maybe there’s nothing to report, but I’d sure like to hear firsthand from the interviewer to that effect. No particular stunning revelation here, but it’s been in the back of my mind a while and decided to mention it.
True. Also, keep in mind that the interviewer and the summary writer–if they’re two different people–know about the blog and may secretly stop by from time to time to read what people are saying. When you and others comment, consider those individuals as part of your audience. Maybe a future point that you make could convince them to come forward.
It’s odd that just as it’s odds against finding a document proving your case, it’s also odds against finding a document disproving. Sometimes I step back and think “Maybe it just was a frat prank gone bad and nobody talked.” Well, if that’s it, that’s it. Short of a deathbed confession, that secret won’t be discovered.
The point is that either way, whatever happened, happened, regardless of the ability to document it. I’d really like to know. I’ve swung from being skeptical of the CIA involvement to thinking it did happen that way. There’s just an awful lot of smoke around Miami U at that time to think there wasn’t a fire. The obstructions tossed up by the various agencies sure look like the actions of people with something to hide. But I still accept it’s possible there wasn’t anything to it. I don’t know, just some big picture idle thoughts about the affair.
I know what you mean. I truly do. But as you say, there’s just too much weirdness. The expunged fingerprints are a huge clue that this is more than nothing. And I love that part of the story so much because it’s so serendipitous that he was printed as a kid. And then there are the Miami officials–who were covering things up then and who are still acting strangely, I might add. Obviously I’m biased, but I really do think we’re heading in the right direction.
Something occurred to me as I was answering a question about Ron’s Social Security number last night. It has to do with the university’s actions. As you know, someone from the university interviewed Carl Knox’s former secretary relatively recently, and I believe it happened sometime in the 2001-2008 timeframe. (I think it’s closer to the latter part of that timeframe, but at this point, I’m not ready to reveal everything I know or think I know.) I think whoever conducted that interview learned things about the university’s investigation that the university didn’t want to make public. That list of forbidden words would be a really good starting point, imo.
Well…remember how Butler Co’s cold case detective (Frank Smith) reopened the investigation into Tammen’s disappearance in 2008? He contacted the university at around the same time, and they sent him some background information, mostly concerning the whereabouts of Ron’s family members. (It’s the type of info that development offices collect on their alumni, I presume.) If someone from the university had recently interviewed Carl Knox’s secretary and discovered some things and they didn’t let Detective Smith know about it? Um, that seems…unwise. I’m not saying that’s how things happened, but it’s something I’m now wondering about.
A surprisingly nice letter from the CIA. I bet that almost makes you nervous. December 8, 2022. 3 years to the day after the first confirmed case of Covid. I think. Okay, a rather specific day when we’re talking 18 months out, but whatever.
It’s so funny though…it sounds super nice, but then when you reread it, they’re saying “don’t call us again until that date or else you’re going to push us further behind. If you still don’t hear from us by then you can call us, and then we’ll give you another date.” They’re wily.
I gave Black Vault another shot today. It’s not very user friendly. And I tried to use your instructions in the header, and really couldn’t follow them. In particular,
“Jot down the document number from the index and then find it in one of the four folders of the searchable and downloadable database.”
I could use some specifics on exactly where to plug in that file number. I bet (hope?) I’m not the only one.
Ok, sorry about that. It’s definitely tricky. So you know how when you open a folder, you just see a list of numbers? Those numbers correspond to the document numbers in the index. (The index also refers to it as the “MORI ID#,” whatever that means 🤷🏻♀️, but it’s called the document number at the top of the index.) For the most part, the numbers run consecutively in the index and the folders, but then they’ll inexplicably jump to a different prefix. Also, just because a document number may be smaller than another one doesn’t mean it’s in an earlier folder.
So as an example, the first doc number in the index is 17352. I think that may be the smallest number as well. Let’s say you want that one. The index isn’t very copy/pastable, so you’ll need to write down or type that number in a running list of the docs you want to look at. You then go to the folders to see if you can find it. The doc numbers in the folders have lots of zeroes in front of them—ignore those. And then you just hunt for your number. As it so happens, #17352 isn’t in folder 1 or 2—it’s in folder 3. Once you’ve found the document, then you try to figure out if it’s useful or not—redactions and all. It’s a very tedious process, but it’s pretty cool when you think you’ve stumbled onto something relevant. Does that help? Thank you for your efforts! 🙏
Okay, I forgot you identified him. There’s an awful lot of material here. 😉
In my mind, if Switzer was the antagonist, the woman in the car seems a lot more likely. That had always seemed a bit of an outlier to me. How exactly was everyone communicating/coordinating? But if someone ON CAMPUS was pulling the strings, well then…
Add some aliases to the mix and it does get a little confusing. 😜So yeah, Switzer may have been pulling the strings from campus or maybe he was coordinating with someone from Wright Patt? Another commenter (Brett N) has said that he thinks that’s where Ron was driven that night, which seems like a reasonable hypothesis to me.
What was the Ralph Smith lead?
Ralph Smith was my pseudonym for Logan Corbin, the former Oxford cop. That lead was that someone reportedly saw Ron in a car with a woman from Hamilton on the night of Ron’s disappearance and then, after a while, they drove away.
Did you ever look into GEDmatch.com? Just browsing the site and saw that on the blood test post.
I’m glad you asked. Marcia Tammen’s DNA had not been added to GEDmatch before she’d passed away. After she died, it would have been really, really difficult to get past the privacy issues for a third party to do so. Not impossible, but difficult and time-consuming. As an alternative, Robert Tammen is in the process of having his DNA tested. When he receives his results, he’ll be uploading them to GEDmatch.
Well, if I was a well meaning friend of the Miami personnel mentioned, and wanted to defend them, I’d have written something a lot like that. It seemed a bit obvious. I almost said so on the thread. But as I wasn’t sure, I let it go.
Sure, but I can’t have someone misrepresenting their area of expertise. Because it’s my blog, I can’t let things go so easily. As a result, I’ve removed the anonymous feature so people need to put a name to what they’re saying.
Why were some posts removed from the last blog entry?
Based on evidence I gathered, I believe that the lengthy post from Anonymous was written by an imposter. After nine days, I pulled it plus my comments.
I’ll share one point I’d never considered before finding this site. I had a sort of blind spot for the possibility Ron rode away in someone else’s car. Nothing earth shattering in that, but I’m amazed it never entered my mind. That particular point is probably why I’d always leaned to the Fraternity Prank Gone Wrong Theory.
I know, right? It just makes so much sense. And unless he hitchhiked, which I don’t believe he did, now we have ourselves a conspiracy. (PS. Thanks for using the new page!)